democrats and their graft
February 6, 2009
UPDATED with new information at the bottom of this post.
we have all heard about The One’s shameful warnings of great calamities and catastrophes if the stimulus porkulus isn’t passed right now. um, excuse me but the real catastrophe comes when it’s passed!
what is becoming quite clear, is that this stimulus package was created by making a list of political paybacks to organizations that went all out to support the democrat cause in the recent election. the big unions supported democrats with both vast funds, and with door-to-door electioneering, as did the environmental organizations. there is an old fashioned and utterly descriptive word that describes this process — it’s called graft.
graft (noun)
1. the unscrupulous use of one’s position to derive profit or advantages; extortion.
2. money or an advantage gained or yielded by unscrupulous means.
v. graft·ed, graft·ing, grafts
to gain by or practice unscrupulous use of one’s position.
after payback to the big unions, greenies, trial lawyers, teachers union, and bailouts to the states, you can tack on the national endowment for the arts, WIC program, federal child care, pell grants, ‘neighborhood stabilization’, community development block grants, the Smithsonian, fixing up cabinet department buildings, amtrack, honeybee producers, historic preservation, green technology loan guarantees, and carbon-capture demonstration projects. you can go here for a list of 50 ‘worthy’ projects.
once they had a long list of ‘desirable projects’, they assigned monetary values to each one. but the amounts assigned don’t seem to have any relationship to anything.
as an example, they budgeted $4.5 billion for the bigger, smarter and more energy-efficient electric grid (which we need), but industry estimates back in 2004 put the price tag at $165 billion — not just a little off, but 36 times more. and the industry said that the grid was not particularly job intensive, but was basically a software project with technology that was yet to be invented. oh i see. no immediate jobs and pie-in-the-sky inventions yet to be invented.
such blatantly sloppy appropriations of taxpayer money, and laying generational debt on our children and grandchildren in such figures we can barely count that high, speaks volumes about the sensitivity of members of congress to the well being of their constituents, and the extent to which how very out of touch they are with us at home.
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UPDATE this from michelle’s blog:
‘Scroll for updates…The Friday night cave-in is about to begin…Collins (202) 224-2523 Snowe (202) 224-5344 Voinovich (202) 224-3353 Specter (202) 224-4254…If you make just one call, make it Specter’s office. I’m told that he is the ringleader making this happen…Give him hell…’
sounds awesome to me. call them and use your voice - don’t sit down and don’t shut up.
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UPDATED 2/10/09: the senate voted and passed this porkulus bill 61-37. the rino’s who voted for it were the usual suspects: specter, snowe, collins. senator gregg abstained.
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February 6th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Obama and his so called experts do not seem to care what this does to all of us. What an empty suit. It is just rich that he has temper tantrums if there is even a whiff that someone is going to go against his plans.
Instead of moonbats harping about putting President Bush and Veep Cheney on trial, we should put Pelosi and Reid on trial for stupidity and treason to the very people who hired them. I am really annoyed at this spending package!
February 6th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Well this is what we all get when there’s a child in the White House. Even if we lose this vote, we need to be loud and angry about it. As Zoey says, elections have consequences and this is just one of many bitter pills to come.
By the way, is it not interesting that it is grandchildren and great grandchildren not even born yet who will be paying for this mess? How does that make sense to anyone who is so voracious about abortion like Obama? Not a long term thinker I would say.
February 6th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Oh right! You are really dumb aren’t you? It was your side’s ridgid ideology that got us into this mess in the first place and you are all too insecure to admit you all were wrong. Now our economy in losing jobs right and left and all you people can do is look for more of the same by trying to defeat this bill. Why don’t you love this country and want to save it, more than your conservative ideology?
February 6th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
“Oh right! You are really dumb aren’t you? It was your side’s ridgid ideology that got us into this mess in the first place and you are all too insecure to admit you all were wrong.”
I see. Please tell us all, drmwvr, what “rigid ideology” do you speak of that led us to this problem with the economy? I’d love to hear your answer. Please include specific policies and/or bills that Republicans passed that led to this.
February 6th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
@Ken
Well one specific person and policy was GOP Senator Ted “Porky Pig” Stevens and his almost 40 years of porking up the state of Alaska for his pet projects. There was that little project called the “Bridge to Nowhere” I believe. Here are just a few examples of the ballooning of the budget over the years because of your so-called conservative policies:
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/08/04/the_republican_pork_barrel/
http://www.cato.org/pubs/tbb/tbb-0508-24.pdf
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2003/10/28/991/72222
February 6th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
The bridge to no where ?
That caused all this ?
Obviously you know little about the CRA that created the housing bubble along with the unquakified nuyers allowed by the dems forcing banks to bring down requirements.
Just about any graph you pull of any finacial site will show the growth bwtween 2003 and 2007 right up till the most useless congress in our history showed up.
What about Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and Schumer ? All allowing banks and mortgage rates to go at the level and pace they went for the last two years leading up to this ?
And what about John McCain begging congress to do something about the inevitable 2 years ago ?
You also seem to forget the our economy was just fine until those numbskulls were elected into congress, care to explain that phenomenon ?
You say Ted Stevens ? So what ?
I say I say John Murtha !!!
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119371051667975920.html?mod=politics_primary_hs
The Democratic lawmaker is chairman of the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense, which will oversee more than $459 billion in military spending this year.
Wait a minute ?? Didn’t Obama say he was gong to cut military spending by 10% ?
Guess not !
Over the past decade, Concurrent Technologies Corp., a defense-research firm that employs 800 here, got hundreds of millions of dollars thanks to Rep. Murtha despite poor reviews by Pentagon auditors. The National Drug Intelligence Center, with 300 workers, got $509 million, though the White House has tried for years to shut it down as wasteful and unnecessary.
Mr. Murtha has steered at least $600 million in earmarks to his district in the past four years, according to Taxpayers for Common Sense, a nonpartisan Washington group. The nonprofit group estimates he’s sent $2 billion or more to the district since joining the appropriations .
Has it also occured to that 2/3 of this country done even want this stinking bill ?
Seems like you’re the one thats more worried about ideology rather than what the country really needs.
Oh, and dont even make me show you all the crap on that bill, I have it on PDF and trust me, you’ll grow a beard getting from top to bottom.
February 6th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
>>what is becoming quite clear, is that this stimulus package was created by making a list of political paybacks to organizations that went all out to support the democrat cause in the recent election.
There’s no denying that’s the case. This is a political payback bill, and has nothing to do with helping the country recover.
As far as “got us into this mess in the first place,” I’ve been in the financial industry for over 30 years and currently own my own mortgage, stock broker and insurance company. This problem was triggered by Congress, specifically individuals like Chris Dodd and Barney Frank, petitioning Fannie and Freddie to lower their lending standards to permit higher risk loans to higher risk customers. Just like the “stimulus” we have now, they did it in order to buy political votes.
I worked the floor at the NYSE for 3 years and still keep in touch with several with whom I worked. They all know who the culprits were (Dodd, Frank, etc…) and they don’t trust them. This “stimulus,” as it stands, will do virtually nothing, and the financial world knows it. Before the end of the year, Congress will be back begging for more because “This last bill just wasn’t enough.” Question is how much longer the American people will put up with it.
So the local dimwit here who is trying to pass it off on Republicans, it wasn’t them who lowered the standards, it was the Dodd’s and Frank’s of the world. And it doesn’t matter if the local dimwit agrees or not, because the players on Wall Street who control the cash know it, along with enough concerned Americans, and that’s all that matters.
February 6th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Thanks Micky, you beat me to it. Apparently, drmwvr, you think that pork causes recessions. As the article that Micky posted, John Murtha is the worst offender in Congress, so I guess he must shoulder more of the responsibility than Stevens, right? Furthermore, this “stimulus” package is loaded with more pork than we have ever seen in this country. So, by your definiton, this stimulus plan will only make things worse, correct?
Recessions are not caused, they happen. It is governments job to do what it can to get us out of a recession. We had a moderate recession when Clinton left office, but that wasn’t his fault, it was his (and subsequently W’s) job to get us out of it, which they did.
Please remember to do your homeowork before you come here spouting your anti-conservative/Republican rantings.
February 6th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Do my homework??? How about living it for the last freakin 8 years? More and more Americans are sick of Republicans and your faux conservative wing. We recognize that it was the infrastructure of the Bush economic prinicples that put us in this mess in the first place and you people know it.
February 6th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Hey Drmwvr
“your faux conservative wing”
Let me assure you that we are very real and becoming more and more unified with every day Barry is on the throne. Put that in your bong and smoke it.
February 6th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
“Oh, and dont even make me show you all the crap on that bill, I have it on PDF and trust me, you’ll grow a beard getting from top to bottom.”
dang micky! i know i won’t be reading that thang. i’ll just trust you.
February 6th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Drmwvr.You expect me to take your word based on an 8 year partisan experience ?
You argument isnt worth a damn so you try to shove your opinion down our throat as fact ?
“More and more Americans are sick of Republicans”
Sorry, how far up your a$$ did you have to reach to pull that one out ?
Were all still here, at least the 48% of us that didnt vote for that moron are still here.
And frankly, it doesnt matter what you say about how mant people can or cannot stand us.
The fact of the matter is that support for this POS bill has gone down in the last week from 42% to 35%. Thats a third of the country that says “no freaking way ” to this BS that your messiah is trying to shove down our throats.
So… Its not really us you need to be worrying about, you need to tell your own party to get its sh*t together.
“infrastructure of Bush economic priciples ” ?
You have no idea what your talking about, do you ?
More accurately the claim should just reflect Bushs policies which are based on a free market capitalistic philosohphy where the rule of supply and demand dictate trends. The need to decorate your claim with ornamnetal words of no consequence is probably derived of some attempt to conciel your total ignorance on the subject.
The policies most effective in influncing the market were the policies of regulation on behalf of a liberal 2006 congress and the CRA enacted by the Carter administration and and bolstered later by the Clinton Administration.
See here.
http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/search?encquery=b70d4480a198ee06f8853ae4bfa50c93ea271fdeb2d14920edd759b45a74478e&invocationType=keyword_rollover&ie=UTF-8
Along came the 111th congress with poster boys for unqualified home ownership Barney Frank, Chriss Dodd . Pelosi , Reid and Chuck Schumer where they set out to obtain as many liberal votes as possible buy implementing the CRA with even less requirements for homeownership thru Fanny Mae, Freddy Mac, Country wide, etc..
Here.
The Wall Street Journal puts in the best context yet.
“Here is the editorial in it’s entirely:
One month from tomorrow, U.S. Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., will be the keynote speaker at the New Hampshire Democratic Party’s annual Jefferson-Jackson dinner. It is a coveted and high-profile role previously filled by such notables as Hillary Clinton and Al Gore. The Democrats’ choice of House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank is, therefore, very revealing.
The party announced Frank as the keynote speaker on Sept. 11 — three days after the U.S. government took control of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, costing taxpayers untold billions. That takeover probably could have been prevented had Frank not worked to thwart every attempt to limit the risks taken on by the two government-sponsored mortgage giants.
For 16 years reformers in Congress have tried to improve oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and prevent the government-chartered companies from putting the housing market and the whole economy at risk. All that time, Frank was involved in efforts to block those attempts, and in the last eight years he was a leader of those efforts.
In 2002, shortly before accounting irregularities were exposed at both companies, Frank said, “I do not regard Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as problems,” The Wall Street Journal reported. After the Freddie Mac accounting scandal in 2003, Frank said, “I do not think we are facing any kind of a crisis.”
But there was a crisis, thanks in large part to Frank, Sen. Charles Schumer and others on the leash of these companies. In Congress, they made sure there was no additional oversight, no additional limit on executive behavior and compensation, and no further restraint on the growth of the companies’ mortgage-backed-securities portfolios, among other changes.
(All of these needed reforms, by the way, have been championed for years by Sen. John Sununu.)
In fact, Frank & Co. made matters worse by pushing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to take on greater risk. They wanted more loans to people who might not qualify for traditional bank financing. And, as The Wall Street Journal has pointed out, Frank “pressured regulators to ease up on their capital requirements — which now means taxpayers will have to make up that capital shortfall.”
Even now, after the government took the companies over (which Frank repeatedly said over the years was not a possibility), Frank opposes limits on the amount of money they can risk on mortgage backed securities — the one reform that might have done the most to prevent the current meltdown and probably would do the most to keep it from happening again.
Barney Frank is the very symbol of Washington’s deliberate refusal to prevent the collapse — the predicted collapse — of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. And this is the guy the New Hampshire Democratic Party showcases at its most prestigious annual event. That ought to tell you a lot right there.
Besides their total ignorance about the troubles that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were headed towards is the fact that these two men, and other Democrats, helped to make the problem worse.
In fact, Frank & Co. made matters worse by pushing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to take on greater risk. They wanted more loans to people who might not qualify for traditional bank financing. And, as The Wall Street Journal has pointed out, Frank “pressured regulators to ease up on their capital requirements
These companies were forced to loan money to people who couldn’t afford it in the interest of “being fair.” Rules were relaxed and money was loaned and predictably low income families defaulted on loans that they never had any business getting in the first place and now you and I have to pay for it.
Another liberal policy and another liberal failure. And now we must all pay for it. But hell, they meant well.”
Now, unless you’ve got something better than an opinon that dictates “Isaid so ”
please dont spout any more crap that will make you look any more ignorant than you are.
February 6th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Here Kate.
In case anyone else wants to see this clusterf*ck in its entirety
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/01/28/hr1_text.pdf
February 6th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
“We recognize that it was the infrastructure of the Bush economic prinicples that put us in this mess in the first place and you people know it.”
No, just a minute ago you said it was “pork” spending. Your “evidence” was all the pork spending that Stevens did, yet when you were confronted with the mother of all porkers, John Murtha, your argument quickly shifted to “infrastructure”.
Keep trying.
February 6th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
You are basically lying when you describe this bill. And now because of your feckless whining, important and useful things are having to be removed. You people are like gnats in the summer: irritating but easily squashed.
February 6th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
Which “important and useful things” Kevin? The $25 million for new ATV trails? $150 million to the Smithsonian? $600 million to convert government vehicles to hybrid? This will go down in history as the worst all team deal that got shoved down the Americans throat.
Keep living in the dark, Kevin, Obama needs you that way.
February 6th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Kevin.
Are the more than half of the dems out there that reject this bill also liars ?
Our feckless whining ?
I got news for ya buddy, you guys hold the majority so why didnt it just blow through ?
This dream of kumbaya and always whining for non partisanship crap has to stop.
Its unrealistic and insults the intelligence of even the simplest minds.
If I here one more of these disengenuous cries for “non-partisanship” come out of one more pols mouth I’m going to puke. ( I have my barf bag ready)
Our government is structured so that partisanship plays an active fundamental role in making sure that issues are debated to their most truthful efficient form before they are made into law.
If we did not have partisanship bickering what we would be looking would basically be a communist dictatorship where bills get presented, signed and stamped into law with no resitance.
I want these guys to fight, I want every dime to be scrutinized.
So Kevin, shut your yap an appreciate that we have system that allows for the checks and balances that partisan bickering allows for.
As hard core of a con as I am I will tell you thats its never good when either side has a majority that allows for a one party state.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Hi. Does anyone know if the funding to ACORN was cut from the bill? I have been trying to find out with no luck. Thank you.
Love, Love, Love to read the comments on this blog. Yes I am a Lurker here. It is my guilty pleasure!
February 6th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Do you think it’s right that the party that lost the last election and now controls only 40% in the Senate can veto what the majority wants to do? Now that is a stinking pile of whatever it is that Mickey always says.
February 6th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Ben.
Would you care to elaborate on whatever it is that I “always say” ?
Or should we all take your word for it that its crap ?
Much like this crap bill that Obama expects the whole country accept without question ?
Ben, the republicans are a minority that lacks the needed votes to pass anything into law unless enough dems vote with them to make up a 60% majority in agreement.
“The basic explanation is the Senate’s rule of “unlimited” debate. Debate is not really unlimited — it can be ended by a cloture vote, but that requires an extraordinary majority of 60% of the members (not just 60% of those voting), and there are not 60 Republican senators. Thus, a united Democratic party can block action on a bill by threatening to vote against cloture.”
I believe that if the dems held one or two more seats right now the republicans would not have much to say about anything.
Do you know what you’re talking about ?
February 7th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Well something HAS TO BE DONE with this horrible economic situation that idiot boy left the country with. He waltzes off to luxery and the rest of us have nothing. You people go on and on about it being PORK. Well that PORK brings jobs to needed areas of the country that otherwise would get NOTHING. Maybe all of you are rich cat republicans I dunno know but I need to work. I am willing to pay over the long haul to be able to work today. You people are amazing.
February 7th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Gemma, whatever is cut from the bill is just going to be added back at a later time:
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/02/senate-agrees-on-stimulus-bill-dems.html
“One, Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan, told reporters he and others hoped that some of the funds on the chopping block would be restored next week when negotiations open on a House-Senate compromise.”
Straight from the horse’s ass..er, I mean mouth.
Ben you sound like the rest of the uniformed Bush haters that come to this site. I’ll ask you like I asked them, what specifically did Bush do to “cause” the recession?
Also, apparently you are ranting about the wonderful jobs that are going to be created by this stimulus. Its obvious you haven’t read what this money is going to. Only $100 billion is going to “create” jobs, and there’s plenty of doubt whether or not thats going to work. The rest almost, $750 billion is going to pet projects for the liberals. Hundreds of economists took out an ad in the NY TImes telling the president that the stimulus is not going to help, but what do they know, right? You know better!!
This is too important of an issue to not know the facts, and its obvious you are incredibly ignorant of what this bill is all about.
February 7th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Here’s something about the stimulus in the Wall Street Journal, which I think, knows a little bit about economics:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123396623933859023.html?mod=rss_opinion_main
“Instead, Mr. Obama chose to let House Democrats write the bill, and they did what comes naturally: They cleaned out their intellectual cupboards and wrote a bill that is 90% social policy, and 10% economic policy. (See here for a case study.) It is designed to support incomes with transfer payments, rather than grow incomes through job creation.”
It’s worth a read and pretty much sums everything up.
February 7th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
“Well something HAS TO BE DONE with this horrible economic situation that idiot boy left the country with. He waltzes off to luxery and the rest of us have nothing. You people go on and on about it being PORK. Well that PORK brings jobs to needed areas of the country that otherwise would get NOTHING. Maybe all of you are rich cat republicans I dunno know but I need to work. I am willing to pay over the long haul to be able to work today. You people are amazing.”
Ben, congratulations. That is one of the most incredibly stupid comments that I’ve had the pleasure of reading here. I find it amazing that you’ve managed even a rudimentary understanding of computer operation, though I’ve no doubt that you’d be totally lost at a command line interface. And you have the temerity to refer to President Bush as an “idiot boy”? I disagreed with him on any number of issues, but he is certainly no idiot.
Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for you. You very obviously have no clue as to the true nature of the “stimulus package” if you believe that “Well that PORK brings jobs to needed areas of the country that otherwise would get NOTHING”.
Now, this is a golden opportunity for you, Benji - if you know what you’re talking about, feel free to enumerate and elaborate on the nature of the many jobs that you claim will miraculously emerge from the lard.
“Maybe all of you are rich cat republicans I dunno know but I need to work. I am willing to pay over the long haul to be able to work today. You people are amazing.”
I can assure you that I am not of the feline persuasion, nor am I rich. In point of fact, I arise at 4 a.m five days each week, and generally devote well over the standard 40-hour time-frame to work. And while, like you, I’m willing to pay over the long haul for improvement in the current economic climate, unlike you I am definitely not willing to force my children and their children to pay so that you can work today.
It is you that is amazing, Ben, in your self-centered arrogance.
February 7th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Ben.
You’re about as clueless as they come.
I don’t even care to go in all the details as to how our economy was just fine from 911 up until the housing bubble collapse in 07.
Obamas plan will not help the economy any more than Bush was responsible for what happened.
Are you aware of any of the facts I listed above that contributed to this recession ?
This recession is here due in large part to regulations put in place by dems decades ago that finally gave us the results a couple of years ago.
John McCain went to congress two years ago and begged them to pay attention what was coming.
They told him to screw off.
And really, its pretty cheesy and dishonest to say that Bush “waltzed off to luxury” leaving us with this, he really had no freaking choice to stay now did he ???
That pork “DOES NOT” bring jobs. and what of it does will not bring jobs for another 2 to 3 years, maybe longer. Building highways, retrofitting buildings etc all take planning, bidding by contractors, designing and what have you.
We need jobs YESTERDAY !!!!
That means giving people, small business, and large corporations who already have production in action that can use that money to produce and hire people to manufacture that product.
people need money to borrow so they can open new business and hire more people.
We don’t need all these stinking little pet projects that take us nowhere.
And if they ever do it will take for ever.
Obama is not addressing the home ownership issue like he said he would on the campaign trail.
The first crack we took at fixing this mess got screwed up by both parties.
Home ownership is a major component in this recession that needed to be addressed.
There are many people who can actually afford home ownership yet are struggling just to come up with a down payment, have consistent cash flow, yet are always tapped, and so are trapped in the paradox of paying rent their whole life. That rent payment is usually larger than what a mortgage payment would be for the average homeowner.
I had cash flow problems myself for years even though my income was sufficient to pay rent that was actually more than what my mortgage payments are today, and the property is much nicer. Today as a result of mortgage payments that are less than my rent I have a little extra cash to throw around.
I’m not saying we sign up unqualified applicants, just that we help people who can pay a mortgage break free from the hamster wheel of paying rent.
If anyone remembers, because home ownership is so important to the economy the whole point behind the TARP was to allow banks to get people into houses. The money was to be loaned by the banks to the people for that purpose alone, but that never happened.
The point is that it was recognized that we need to get people into houses because home ownership is the cornerstone of our economy that will support all other sectors of growth and is actually less of a strain on the average family’s budget and as a result frees up more cash to be circulated in the market.
As we all know, no one knows what the hell happened to that first 350 billion and here we are getting hosed again. Except this time the money is not going to the banks , its going right to the fed and state programs and not into the peoples hands where everyone knows it needs to be.
Obama says that the programs everyone is bitch*ng about only make up 1 % of the 850 billion dollar package and then from other economist I hear that only 5 % of the bill actually goes to programs that will boost the economy.
Even if those numbers are tweaked one way or another for whatever reasons its an awfully frightening spread.
So Ben, I suggest you go knock on Obamas door and give him an earful because really buddy, its mostly the fault of old democratic policies that lead to a housing boom supported by millions of people who couldn’t afford it.
And right now, if you study history a little you’ll see that everything Obama is doing is exactly what led us in the 30s from recession right into the worst depression this country has ever seen
I can almost GUARANTEE you that things are going to get way way worse with this plan as it is
What will probably happen is you’ll end up with a job working for the government paid for by what few people there are left working in the private sector because all the pork and spending in this bill will only produce government jobs.
The government produces nothing that brings in a tangible dollar profit.
And come the next election you will have to vote for this loser president just so you can keep you government job that is being paid for by the few tax payers left in the higher brackets who finally say f*ck it and close their doors because there’s just no point or profit in staying in business anymore because Obama is taxing the crap out them to pay for all the programs he wants to bring in.
Can you see how that system will eventually collapse ???
We need new homeowners that can open a line of credit and infuse the economy with that.
We need the banks to loan money to individuals who will open businesses and hire people.
Never ever has the government been able to fix a falling economy by spending!!!
EVER!!!
February 7th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
@Ken
Thanks for the tip on Acorn and the bill. I did find this link that basically says ACORN is eligible for the funding under the huge chunk going for community revitalization. grrrr.
http://www.dcexaminer.com/opinion/Congress-crafting-a-stimulus-to-nowhere39133632.html
February 7th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
The dems are already looking into capping the salaries on ALL executive salaries, not just the ones that received federal grant money. They are ensuring generations of government dependent people and they are rewarding their loyal cronies, like ACORN, with millions of dollars. We are well on the road to socialism.
Don’t believe me? Look at the wonderful review given to Obama by the Communist Party of America:
http://cpusa.org/article/view/1015/
“Meanwhile, the Republican Party, notwithstanding its efforts to distance itself from arguably the worst president in our history, is on the defensive. Its grassroots constituency is dispirited. And, its governing philosophy of “free markets”, minimal government, fear, and division, and especially racist division, is discredited.”
Gosh, if I didn’t know any better I would have thought that quote came from Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid. Why do the communists sound so much like the democrats?? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
February 7th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
It really hardly matters what any of you right wing lunatics say or do. Who you call or how much you complain and whine on a nothing little blog. This bill and this solution to our econmic problems is a done deal. Our country needs this stimulus to survive!
DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?????????
This bill will pass this weekend so get use to this. The American people stripped your leadership of their power because of a lack of trust, poor decision-making and their own greediness. Things will be changing in this country. You can browbeat the dissenters on this nothing blog with your long ass comments all you want. It doesn’t change the fact that we won and you lost.
February 7th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
“It really hardly matters what any of you right wing lunatics say or do.”
Is that the best you can do Kevin, when asked for proof of how “Bush screwed up the economy”?? That’s all you got? Considering it hardly matters what we do, YOU sure do spend a lot of time here, don’t you?
“Our country needs this stimulus to survive! ”
Flat out, wrong. A lie that you have been fed, but since you’re so enthralled with the One, you believe anything he says. It’s quite pathetic.
“Things will be changing in this country. ”
We finally agree on something!! Somebody failed to tell you though, Kevin, not all change is good. You will find this out soon enough.
“It doesn’t change the fact that we won and you lost.”
Wrong again, America lost.