’sidetracked by iraq’
April 3, 2009
i’m speechless. really. The One, who was holding a townhall with french and german zombies obamatons students, actually blamed the US and george W. bush for the war on terror and iraq. he excused away europe’s lack of real assistance in iraq because it was our fault for getting ’sidetracked’ there.
Welcomed with thunderous cheers, President Barack Obama pledged on Friday to work repair damaged relations with Europe, saying the world came together following the 2001 terrorist attacks but then “we got sidetracked by Iraq.”
“We must be honest with ourselves,” Obama said. “In recent years, we’ve allowed our alliance to drift.”
The new U.S. president said that despite the bitter feelings that were generated by Iraq, the United States and its allies must stand together because “al-Qaida is still a threat.”
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“We got sidetracked by Iraq and we have not fully recovered that initial insight that we have a mutual interest in ensuring that organizations like al-Qaida cannot operate,” he said. “I think it is important for Europe to understand that even though I am president and George Bush is not president, al-Qaida is still a threat.”
apologizing for getting of rid of saddam? for liberating 50,000 people? why is this president feeding the hatred of W in europe, but keep his very policies in iraq and afghanistan? obama is a shameful disgrace.
this is also an incredible backhanded slap at our military and their mission. did obama forget we still have troops there and in harm’s way? and should you need a reminder of how our troops respond to their c in c, how can you forget this picture?
marines impressed? not so much
but wait! he wasn’t quite finished bashing us. he also said this:
“…there have been times where America’s shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive.”
geez. they may ‘treat’ him like a rockstar, but the leaders in europe, nk, china, iraq are all laughing behind our backs saying how lucky THEY got that we elected this dunce.
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April 3rd, 2009 at 12:05 pm
I have just been reading a few other conservative blogs and you LOONS are out in left field on this one. I am not going to enter in to a debate on Iraq. EVERYONE knows how wrong it was. We went after the wrong enemy and now we are paying for it in Afghanistan. Thankfully President Obama will be righting this ship and will be able to engage our allies in europe that George W. Bush destroyed.
you call this bashing? “There have been times where America’s shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive.” Do you think our country is perfect? Good God look at slavery!! We are still fighting the effects of that! Are you people even educated? America has an arrogance that is so distasteful to others. President Obama thankfully has a more global view and will also help with this.
By the way, the troops love Obama. For every picture like this, I can find 20 where they embrace him wildly.
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Kate why are you surprised by this. Barry is going to be the Apologizist President.
Remember he is still a community organizer and the world is a really big community.
The looks on the faces of the brave Marines says it all. Go back and look that their faces when President Bush spoke. They were proud because he was proud of them and proud of our country.
It is the panty waisted liberals that think you can just say you are sorry and make everything okay in the eyes of the world. Barry is a panty waiste and thinks he is still working for ACCORN.
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
” I am not going to enter in to a debate on Iraq. EVERYONE knows how wrong it was.”
Yes, you know what everyone knows.
I have a question for you, since you know what everyone knows.
Do you know why the troops with the same values and morals as President Bush volunteered to go into Iraq ?
Are you aware of the many strategic benifits and collateral progresses that have and will be made because of our intervention there ?
Probably not since I get the impression you’re one of the idiots that is still hung up on WMDs, oil, Halliburton or some other retarded reason.
“We went after the wrong enemy ”
Thats your mistake. It wasnt about “going after an enemy” It was about preventing that enemy from becoming an even bigger one. That alone was not the main reason as it was only the justification we needed to go in an accomplish other initiatives that I’ll still assume you’re clueless as to what they are.
“and now we are paying for it in Afghanistan.”
Yes, its Bushs fault that the Taliban ran south and decided to return upon Obamas election.
” Thankfully President Obama will be righting this ship and will be able to engage our allies in europe that George W. Bush destroyed.”
I hardly see how kissing Europs a$$ is going to be of any benefit to our progress in the middle east. Just FYI, Europeans (the ones that count) are not all that crazy about his economic policies that have actually alienated us even further.
You and the rest of the moonbats out there had better start learning the difference between the love Obama gets fron Europes general population and the sentiments he recieves from the heads of state.
“Do you think our country is perfect? Good God look at slavery!!”
Yea, do you know who it was that supported slavery at that time ?
” We are still fighting the effects of that! ”
No, you and the left are only because you say that we are. For the last 50 years the democratic party has never let the black community forget slavery only so they can use it as a segway to retaining votes.
“Are you people even educated? ”
I’m sure you are as well but you’re still stupid.
“America has an arrogance that is so distasteful to others. President Obama thankfully has a more global view and will also help with this.”
A global view ? Does that mean the earth is no longer flat ? Or is that just another programmed statement your running like all the others because it sounds ooooooh sooooo good ?
“By the way, the troops love Obama. For every picture like this, I can find 20 where they embrace him wildly.”
Good for you.
75 % of our troops voted republican in the last election, can you find me a snap shot of that ?
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
A,
Which enemy was the wrong enemy? You and the rest of the looney left would have never gone to war because you don’t believe in liberty for all. It is inexcusable for a President to make the remarks he has made. And what’s worse he makes them on foreign soil. As for troops loving him, I doubt that. Because most of the military understands what their role is. Barry in Charge does not.
We will see an exodus from the military over the next 18 months. It will be like when Billary was President. The morale will be very low because theses brave men and women don’t want to bomb asprin factories or be put under the command of the UN. And they don’t want the war on terror fought by law enforment.
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:00 pm
President Obama is saying exactly what most people everywhere, including the United States, know: the Iraq War, which was in the works long before Junior even became president, was part of a neo-conservative agenda that had nothing to do with terrorism and most certainly not with any altruistic feelings toward the Iraqi people.
All you’ve got to do is go back to the Reagan era, to see that the real motive for invading Iraq was to remove Saddam Hussein, not because he was a bastard, but because he had gotten too big for his britches. Six weeks after Saddam dropped those chemical barrages, Don Rumsfeld was in Bagdad, shaking his hand.
It is well known that within 5 hours of the 911 attacks, Don Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney and Junior himself were already calculating how they might use the event as an excuse to implement their neo-conservative agenda: the Project for a New American Century.
Now, regarding the troops and their feelings toward President Obama, I personally know service people who were stationed in Iraq who despised Junior with a passion that makes my own seem mild. These same service persons voted enthusiastically for Obama.
In that light, your conclusion about the relationship between Obama and the troops is a little bit like the statistician who went out one night and got drunk on 7up and vodka, the next night on 7up and bourbon, and a third night on 7up and gin and therefore decided that the 7up was the culprit.
Iraq was all based on a lie and many people knew it was a lie, right from the start. As an international traveler, I can’t tell you how many times I apologized to people I met in my travels for my country’s behavior. It is a mark of absolute shame that so many of my countrymen were taken in so badly by such an obvious charlatan.
But, I don’t feel too strongly about it…
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Dade,
The term neo-conservative means : a former liberal espousing political conservatism. And/or A conservative who advocates the assertive promotion of democracy and United States national interest in international affairs including through military means.
Speading democracy is a bad thing because………………?
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:34 pm
George,
You asked: “Speading democracy is a bad thing because………………?”
Well, in neo-conservative speak, what is “the assertive promotion of democracy?”
It’s military invasion, right? It’s open warfare.
What do you say, George? Shall we invade North Korea next? How about China? The people there deserve democracy, don’t they?
I’m sure the fact that Iraq has the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world had nothing to do with the neo-conservative decision to start there with their spread of democracy. Just a happy coincidence, right?
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:41 pm
point of order mrs. chair woman …
iraq does not have the second highest oil reserves in the world. in fact, if you include shale and offshore deposits, the usa dwarfs iraq’s reserves.
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Actually Kate I love this post. Why you ask? Because for once in a very long time, the President of the United States did not mince words on our failure with going into Iraq and the damage it cause with allies. He also was blunt in saying we are not always right. I know the truth hurts you flag waving delusional rightwingers but that’s the way it’s going to be now that we have honesty in the White House.
Dade mentions Don Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney. They are 2 of the most dishonest and dangerous people around. Thank God they are out on their ears. They along with Shrub should be brought up on charges!!! They helped to manufacture the lie about WMD and promoted it worldwide. It has caused the death of thousands of Americans and even horribly wounded Ken the Cop! Who really knows the loss of Iraqi life.
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:09 pm
One of the wonderful things coming out of the trip to Europe is that our American President actually brought people closer together acting as a mediator during this global crisis. Could this be signs of a new role for the US to play in the 21st Century? I sure hope so. I am tired of war and of having people hate America aren’t all of you?
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Hear, hear, Asia! Tired of war. Tired of opprobrium!
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
jared, asia, pundit~
you know this is an amazing country. i know it and i think deep down you do too.
it is to be protected and treasured not ridiculed and demeaned. what barack obama — the PRESIDENT of this amazing country — said on foreign soil to people who have tried to exterminate whole populations and people who have fought in brutal bloody wars every 30 years or so their ENTIRE existence, is so beyond disturbing to me.
do you remember that it was france and germany who got stinking RICH off of Saddam while women and children were raped, men and boys simply disappeared, etc. etc. etc.
obama himself told us what he thought of our country and all of us in his first book ‘dreams of my father’. talking about that seems to just get buried. and i would bet none of you have read it.
what bo did was play into the hands of the ‘ugly american’ mentality by basically saying we are. and he’s our president.
April 3rd, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Well, Bush may have cheated his way to office, started two wars, and practically destroyed our economy, but at least his wife kept her arms covered.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAH!
Bunch of jealouse hypocrits!
April 3rd, 2009 at 4:39 pm
This morning as I watched President Obama speak and answer questions, I watched the markets go up, at one point over 300 points and 8000 and closing close to 8000.
The President’s attention to detail is amazing. Whine and cry all you want, he is charge and isn’t going anywhere. As far as Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld?
Investigate and Incarcerate. (I guess hanging is too much??)
April 3rd, 2009 at 6:00 pm
It is well known that within 5 hours of the 911 attacks, Don Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney and Junior himself were already calculating how they might use the event as an excuse to implement their neo-conservative agenda: the Project for a New American Century.”
Its well known ? By whom ?
Is there something that can verify this ? And what might that agenda be ?
All this is, is more leftist spewing of unsubstantiated garbage when what’s more well known than this piece of tripe is that America could no longer sit by and wait for potential threats to come to fruition.
The thought may of been there long ago but Saddams actions during the Clinton years are one of many reasons we decided after 911 that this type of character could no longer be allowed to continue.
After 911 we had the inspiration to develop ulterior motives, one of which was to make ourselves present in the middle east so we could keep an eye on the hornets nest of instability called the middle east. To establish a base and platform to which we operate in whatever capacity needed should it be needed.
“Now, regarding the troops and their feelings toward President Obama, I personally know service people who were stationed in Iraq who despised Junior with a passion that makes my own seem mild. These same service persons voted enthusiastically for Obama. ”
That’s just great, I know service people who also despise Bush.
The fact remains that the majority of our troops are registered republicans who volunteered for something they had no delusions about.
The ones you speak of were probably lefties who just couldn’t hang anymore or had done enough time to receive their benefits, thought they were going home, but were re assigned and got a little bummed out.
“Iraq was all based on a lie and many people knew it was a lie, right from the start.”
Who ?
“As an international traveler, I can’t tell you how many times I apologized to people I met in my travels for my country’s behavior.”
That’s your problem.
” It is a mark of absolute shame that so many of my countrymen were taken in so badly by such an obvious charlatan.”
Its a shame that its you who’s actually doing the misrepresentation here with intent and clarity.
Bush and the many members of congress and the coalition had no idea the intelligence was flawed, but you instead blatantly lie as you make the case that intelligence was intentionally tweaked just to go to war.
Tell me, what was the benefit ?
Oil ? Don’t see that around do we ? Would of been a lot cheaper to just take it.
Halliburton, contracts ? I seriously doubt that anyone would venture such a thing were the initial costs outweigh the profit margin such as the cost of the war against whatever these contractors made.
So tell me, what was the motive ? You seem to know everything else.
“What do you say, George? Shall we invade North Korea next? How about China? The people there deserve democracy, don’t they?”
That was lame, wise up.
These countries do not exist in a region full of theocracies that have been attacking America for decades and did not attack a sovereign country such as Kuwait and then violate every resolution stemming from the surrender agreements.
“I’m sure the fact that Iraq has the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world had nothing to do with the neo-conservative decision to start there with their spread of democracy. Just a happy coincidence, right?”
I’ll ask you again, where’s the oil ?
I’ll tell you were it is. Its till in the fricking ground as the three sects of the Iraqi parliament try to decide how to divide it up amongst themselves while they also try to figure out how Iraqi parliamentary figures managed to take revenues from that oil and deposit them in offshore Cayman accounts.
We are also in negotiations with Iraq as to how much of the revenues will be paid to America for projects not related to the war.
And then we have to take into account that Lisa’s point is spot on also, I think you’re mixed up with Iran, and just mixed up altogether.
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Jared;
“but that’s the way it’s going to be now that we have honesty in the White House.”
Hmm… If you believe that then you probably own quite a few bridges by now.
Would you like me to list all of Obamas lies ? I will if you ask.
So far he has been the most dishonest president we’ve ever had in the context that he’s broken his word more often in less time than any other president so far.
Do you really believe that Obama spewing his opinion to a bunch of moonbats is honesty ?
Believing the war was right or wrong does not make truth, it makes opinion.
“Dade mentions Don Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney. They are 2 of the most dishonest and dangerous people around. Thank God they are out on their ears. They along with Shrub should be brought up on charges!!! They helped to manufacture the lie about WMD and promoted it worldwide. It has caused the death of thousands of Americans and even horribly wounded Ken the Cop! Who really knows the loss of Iraqi life.”
(Kate, I’m sorry)
You honestly are a f*cking idiot, you know that ?
How f*cking dare you patronize Ken to make stupid a f*ckin point /accusation that neither you or anyone else has ever been able to prove ? HUH ?
Do you know why Bushs has never been brought up on charges you freaking idiot ?
Because all of the dem congress that it would take to do it all saw the same intelligence that lead them to vote to go to war as well as everyone else ! Which means that all of congress would have to bring themselves up on charges also you f*ckin idiot !!!!
Bush could not of manufactured sh*t because the intelligence came from a gathering coordinated by numerous members of the coalition and not just the United States !
That’s right schmuck, Ken knows what its all about and you don’t even have the fricken guts to even try to imagine what he’s willing sacrifice for his country.
And then you’re stupid enough to throw his name in there as if you really think he’s going to stand behind your ridiculous assertion ?
“He also was blunt in saying we are not always right.”
No, hes of the “OPINION” that were not always right since any idiot knows hes only talking about Bushs policies and being the gutless turd he is cant move forward without always blaming someone for something.
Now, if you want to talk about all the screw ups since hes been in office do you hear him saying that ?
(Pennie, you’re hopeless.)
April 4th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Wow, the neo-socialists got rattled on that one, Kate, you must have hit a nerve.
“I have just been reading a few other conservative blogs and you LOONS are out in left field on this one. I am not going to enter in to a debate on Iraq. EVERYONE knows how wrong it was. We went after the wrong enemy and now we are paying for it in Afghanistan.”
Way to go, Pundit! You say “I’m not going to enter in to a debate” and then in your next sentence, what do you do? Enter into a debate. Priceless!! Iraq had attacked four separate sovereign nations since 1980, it has supported terrorists including having terrorist training camps on its soil.
http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock040703.asp
“Key to this objective was an airplane fuselage in which Islamic extremists honed their air-piracy skills. Initial reports from the camp vindicate those suspicions.”
Then there’s this. This link talks about the details between Iraq and terrorism as well.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/03/14/saddam-supported-at-least-two-al-qaeda-groups-pentagon/
“A later memorandum from the same collection to the Director of the IIS reports that the Army of Muhammad is endeavoring to receive assistance [from Iraq] to implement its objectives, and that the local IIS station has been told to deal with them in accordance with priorities previously established. The IIS agent goes on to inform the Director that “this organization is an offshoot of bin Laden, but that their objectives are similar but with different names that can be a way of camouflaging the organization.”
There is also the fact that Saddam was paying the families of suicide bombers in Israel. While there is cause to say Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, to say it had nothing to do with international terrorism is living in a dreamworld.
Let’s not forget the assassination plot against George Bush I, that in and of itself is an act of war.
The only way anyone can think we were “sidetracked” by Iraq is if you think dealing with a rogue nation that didn’t abide by U.N. resolutions, got around U.N. sanctions, pursued WMD’s, supported terrorism, and attempted to assassinate other world leaders is being “sidetracked”.
As far as the administration lying, another favorite of the left, feel free to browse the litany of quotes by liberals declaring the danger Iraq poses to the world and the U.S.
http://www.freedomagenda.com/iraq/wmd_quotes.html
Before you respond with “They were looking at falsified data!!”, please note that many of these quotes were in 1998, so it looks like the dems were part of the might “lie” machine in the march to war against Iraq.
“It has caused the death of thousands of Americans and even horribly wounded Ken the Cop! Who really knows the loss of Iraqi life.”
Jared, don’t ever use what happened to me as some sorry excuse to bash President Bush or the Iraq war. I don’t regret going at all!! My time there I saw first hand what Saddam did to some of those people. I talked to Iraqis who despised Saddam and couldn’t thank the U.S. enough for getting rid of him. I looked at the children of Iraq and knew they would never be tortured or raped because their father said something about the government. It’s always the same with the liberals “Freedom for me, not for thee”.
I didn’t sit on my ass and watch it on TV from half way around the world.
Here’s one of my favorite quotes:
“War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. John Stuart Mill English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873)”
So I guess all of you who couldn’t care any less about the Iraqis UNTIL we invaded are part of the “miserable creature” crowd, huh?
“I am tired of war and of having people hate America aren’t all of you?”
Not really. I couldn’t care less what people think of this country. How exactly does it affect you, I’m curious? I don’t feel the need to apologize for my country, because my country has done nothing wrong.
“One of the wonderful things coming out of the trip to Europe is that our American President actually brought people closer together acting as a mediator during this global crisis.”
Again, could you please provide a link? I realize that the media was practically wetting its pants with excitement every time Obama sneezes, but I didn’t realize he had been recognized as the official savior of the summit.
April 4th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
“I watched the markets go up, at one point over 300 points and 8000 and closing close to 8000″
Yes, Pennie, I also noticed you were nowhere to be found last Friday when the market closed down 254 points. A fair weather fan, indeed.
April 6th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Where are you Mistress Blog-ateur?
April 6th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Really, you need to drop the “mistress” crap.
April 6th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Micky STFU. Don’t try to control what I say. Worry about the crap that comes out of your own mouth.
April 7th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Europe loves it when a idiot like B. Hussein, cowering in fear to impotent socialist states, apologizes for our very existance. Notice just how quickly they responded to him asking for military assistance from these same countries in the war in Afghanistan with a big, fat “NO!”
B. Hussein is a liar, a wimp, and an anti-intellectual; all things of which the left exceeds. The leaders of China, Russia, Iran, DPRK, Cuba, etc … need to be put on notice that they can do whatever they want to do over the next 4 years, because the most the current administration will do to stop them would be to suggest the UN send them a strongly worded letter.
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