the give act: obama’s ‘volunteer’ corps
March 26, 2009
updated at the end of this post.
have you heard of The One’s ‘GIVE Act’? it’s a piece of caca legislation that some say intends to create more democrat party foot soldiers in the socialist saul alinsky mode.
making every american a volunteer. that’s the concept of the ‘give act’. the technical name of the bill is the ‘generations invigorating volunteerism and education act’ and you can read the whole thing here.
this legislation is a long list of amendments to existing laws that make it almost impossible to understand. seriously. go try to read it for yourself. there is little mention of volunteerism or education but there is a lot of ‘make-work’ language - doing exactly what or even how this is ‘volunteerism’ is still not clear.
here’s language from the bill:
SEC. 122. NATIONAL SERVICE PROGRAMS ELIGIBLE FOR PROGRAM ASSISTANCE.
‘(a) Required National Service Corps- The recipient of a grant under section 121(a) and each Federal agency operating or supporting a national service program under section 121(b) shall, directly or through grants or subgrants to other entities, carry out or support the following national service corps, as full- or part-time corps, including during the summer months, to address unmet educational, health, veteran, or environmental needs.
so in case you mis-read, it says ‘required’ National Service Corps…
there is a lot of debate over the intentions of this bill, and whether it is as sinister as some would make out to be.
i’m not sure personally.
but what i do know is that democrats think the answer to getting everything done is through goverment programs. everything obama has done in his 65 days in office has been to tighten liberties on americans not loosen them. based on that alone, i am suspicious of this and feel he is indeed expanding ‘his corps’. remember when michelle obama said to the country over a year ago, ‘Barack will never let you go back to the way you used to live…‘ she really meant it.
before obama’s 4 yr term is done government’s sticky fingers will touch almost everything in our lives from healthcare to charitable giving and volunteerism; from increased taxes to owning banking institutions.
and finally, the fact that american young people are not going crazy at the very idea of this bill demonstrates how un-informed, brain washed, and patently submissive the graduates of our public education system have become.
this incomprehensible legislation is speeding through congress and may take away your right to do or not do a thing. the senate could vote on the bill today or tomorrow. you may want to contact your senator and see if you can help stop this monstrosity towards a people’s republic of…
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the senate just passed this $6 billion dollar bill 79-19.
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March 26th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Something exactly like this crossed my mind when we were debating the moonbbats going door to door for pledge signatures.
All of a sudden I feel like a rabbit being hunted by a pack of wolves.
Ya know ?
Something is coming from every direction.
Every other motive out of the executive seems to be some sort of power grab.
From the census being moved into the white house, selective taxation, socialized medicine, energy monitoring in my own home, attempts to make gun ownership nearly impossible, my bank owned by the fed, and my enemies are part of an over seas contingency
March 26th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
If Bush, or any Republican/conservative, would have created this and brought it forward, the libs would be screaming it was “fascist.” But with their lord and savior, B. Hussein, pushing it, then it’s all A-OK. Libs are hypocrites.
March 26th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
This “Obama Youth” bill is scary. He is creating a way to indoctrinate our children. When will this stop? They have come for our land, guns, speech, religion, and now our children. This is America not Germany or Russia!
http://franklinslocke.blogspot.com/
March 26th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Geez!
I can’t get my 16-year-old to do her 10 volunteer hours a year for her high school! She won’t be willing to do this either!
March 26th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
You are really implying by your choice of picture and the subtle language in your post that President Obama is using this bill as an opportunity to start a “Hitler Youth” type program???!?? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Paranoid Thy Name Is REPUBLICANS!
March 26th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
and finally, the fact that american young people are not going crazy at the very idea of this bill demonstrates how un-informed, brain washed, and patently submissive the graduates of our public education system have become.
Actually this is not true. Students today, both High School and College are very aware and very involved in their world around them. I think the majority welcome opportunities to serve others. I think Barack’s own youth as an organizer in black communities is a good example and role model for us. Young people love the idea of a Peace Corp-type program. Maybe you aren’t hearing students go crazy because they like the idea of it. I know I do and will participate fully. It it helps to grow the Obama administration’s agenda, I like that too.
March 26th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
And if this had happened 2 years ago, the above post from PenniePan would have read …
“Chimpy McCokespoon is using this bill as an opportunity to start a “Hitler Youth” type program!!!!!! AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!”
Of course, libs would have consider that post to be a “well thought-out, logical response expressing the outrage of the American people toward the current regime.” Yes, they’re that kooky.
Like I said already, libs have fliped 180 degrees, and what they opposed is now alright because their cult leader is doing it.
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This is from the BHO website:
“THE PLEDGE
I support President Obama’s bold approach for renewing America’s economy.
I will ask friends, family, and neighbors to pledge their support for this plan.”
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/pledgeproject
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Personally, I find this creepy. I would appreciate it if anyone could point out (a) any examples of a Republican president, say during the past 30 years, asking people to take a similar “pledge,” and (b) if it was George W. Bush, any examples of conservatives defending it.
March 26th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Pennie.
Step out of your pile for a minute andjust look at this seriously.
Take away the pic and the language you regard as “subtle” and then take another look at this subject with all the things I mentioned in my first post and tell me if you dont think government is getting to be just a little too much of a part of our daily lives.
Obama is not a community organizer anymore, the campaign is over.
All these kinds of action it make evident is that hes a strong believer in movements containing large groups of people i.e. unions, masses going door to door, his own brand of national police and now a youth movement, and does not really know how to cater to individualism or promote it
Those qualities right there alone and the one lacking should give anyone reason to be concerned as they are the founding mindset of anyone who wishs to establish a communist or “communal” society.
So let me ask you Pennie.
Do you know what the duties and requirements of these youths will be ?
None of us really do, the language is to absent and vague so until then I suggest you go focus your paranoias on the sky that Al Gore said is falling while I’ll stay here and worry about real people that can do real harm to you and I, okay ?
March 26th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Asia, how can you say with definition that something is not true and then attempt to prove that by following up with sentences that all start with “I think ” and “maybe”?
Really, we have Big Brothers, Big Sisters, Cub Scouts, Boy scouts and a whole bunch of youth groups in this country that already do comunal service od some kind.
If we need more of em we’ll just start handing out more community service as an alternative to prison for non violent offenders.
Of course we know that wont serve the purpose of having your own little army of personal mouthpeices running around preaching your garbage to everyone elses kids
March 26th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Asia, I must say that while I may not agree with you, your post was relevant, well written, and directly to the point of the post.
I’ll wait and see on this program. I’m a little wary of the wording of some of the things in it, but let’s see how it progresses.
March 26th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
“Paranoid Thy Name Is REPUBLICANS!”
Yeah, its not like a liberal news show host had a conversation with an author about Cheney running “Execution squads” or anything.
Oh, wait……….
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29676575/
“KEITH OLBERMANN, HOST (voice over): Which of these stories will you be talking about tomorrow?
Assassination tango: The Bush/Cheney execution squads—Sy Hersh‘s stunning scoop.
“Under President Bush‘s authority, they‘ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or to the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That‘s been going on, well, in the name of all of us.”
Democrats, thy name is morons!!
March 26th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
As I’ve referenced before - when Obama was campaigning (oh wait, he hasn’t stopped….) he talked about a Civilian National Service Corps, funded to the same level as the military.
And now it’s here - the National Service Corps. Or as I believe it should rightly be called - P.BO’s Private Army.
March 26th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
We should not be for this even if its the most benign of programs. It grows government and will cost us yet another fortune (we’re running out of fortunes people).
Isn’t the government big enough already? And who oversees it? Obama and his lackeys? So what’s to say they won’t use it like they used these nitwits this past weekend to do the Obama Policy Pledge?
Hasn’t the beauty of volunteerism been because it’s separate and away from government?
Why do we need this at all if it’s as innocent as national volunteerism? It makes no sense and maybe it’s not for something sinister as you say but there is definately an asterisk by this in Obama’s inner circle.
March 26th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
The Senate just passed this and I am thrilled! This will be something we can all embrace. You will see.
March 26th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Jane, all I can say is that Charles Manson would of loved you.
March 26th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
[...] this out! A piece that fell under my radar, Kate at Blatherings caught it. Although it may be to late…to matter. SEC. 122. NATIONAL SERVICE [...]
March 27th, 2009 at 11:08 am
This post is similar comment I made over at r pundits, its applicable and so here you go.
Kevin, if you’re reading I know you just crapped your diaper and are probably jumping around your bedroom right now screaming…
” Look ! Micky cut and pasted ! ”
Here’s the wording from the committee on education and labor.
“Creates 175,000 New Service Opportunities and Rewards Americans for Commitment”
Right away I’ll take issue with first being led to believe this is for Americas youth and right away the opening item is an open ended statement that seems it could allow this to become a back door opportunity for adults to take advantage of also.
Much like the CHIPS bill was originally designated to be for the assistance of children in need of medical insurance it also now in typical liberal back door fashion allows for 28 year olds making up to 68,000.00 a year to receive fed funded insurance.
“Grows the number of volunteers nationwide to 250,000, up from 75,000. The bill also links the full-time education award to the maximum authorized Pell Grant award amount in order to keep up with rising college costs.”
What? What kind of volunteers ?
I’m sure we have more than 75,000 volunteers in this country at any given time for any given cause
“Provides Incentives for Middle and High School Students to Engage in Service”
If you go to the link the types of service that are mentioned are freaking endless.
It looks to me much like list of chores that need to be done and the selection will be whimsical depending on what the leader of that particular community thinks needs to be done.
From where I sit its starting to look a like a huge laborers union that pays less than minimum wage as it goes on to say…
“engages middle and high school students in volunteer activities in their communities and allows them to earn a $500 education award to be used for college costs.”
500 bucks ? On an open ended commitment ?
At what point will I be awarded this award ?
No thanks.
“Makes High School Students Part of Solution to Challenges in their Communities”
“Establishes Youth Engagement Zones, a new service-learning program to help bridge partnerships between community based organizations and schools in high-need, low-income communities to engage high school students and out-of-school youth in service-learning to address specific challenges their communities face.”
We have a plenty of well meaning volunteer efforts being fulfilled by high school kids in my community as it is already who have done it out of their heart and of their own free will with no coercion or pay of any kind.
Why do we need an additional federalized group to do that same thing ?
This country already has organizations that do much the same things in community assistance such as Boy Scouts, Cub Scouts, Girl Scouts, Big Brothers and Sisters, State funded community outreach programs for the needy, homeless and hungry, meals on wheels for the senior disabled etc..
“Recognizes and Supports Colleges and Universities Engaged in Service”
What’s this supposed to mean ?
Does the institution get a plaque ? Grants /
How much is this “recognition” going to cost us ?
“Establishes the Campuses of Service to support and recognize institutions of higher education with exemplary service-learning programs and assists students in the pursuit of public service careers.”
Okay, so if its a liberal campus with a liberal agenda and curriculum that’s where the volunteers will apply their efforts ?
Or would it be a waste to apply resources to institutions that just suck ?
“assists students in the pursuit of public service careers.”?
Man, that got my attention. It sounds to me like they want whip up a whole new batch of liberal politicians.
Yea, that’s it, hell, if you wanna kill your competition I figure the best way is to pump as many indoctrinated moonbats with degrees onto ballots and into public office as you can, right ?
“Boosts Opportunities for Disadvantaged Youth”
“Expands opportunities for disadvantaged youth, including those with disabilities, to become more involved with service and strives to include people of all ages and those from diverse background in volunteerism.”
It might be a reach but this is exactly how Hamas and other radical Islamists recruit young suicide bombers.
Knowing that an oppressed and challenged person is the easiest to mark if you want to exploit their sorrow and anger they go into the community and find the weakest most needy people and convince them that for their service their families will be taken care of for life.
“Creates Green and Other New Service Corps to Meet Key Needs in Low-Income Communities”
“Establishes four new service corps to address key needs in low income communities, including a Clean Energy Corps to encourage energy efficiency and conservation measures, an Education Corps to help increase student engagement, achievement and graduation, a Healthy Futures Corps to improve health care access, and a Veterans Service Corps to enhance services for veterans.
Oh sh*t !!!
Here we go with the global warming indoctrination.
There’s no doubt that these kids are first going to have to buy into the global warming crap before they can be applicable in this dept.
And what’s with the veterans assistance ?
Don’t we already have the VA and a ton of programs helping our troops and vets ?
“Expands the focus of the National Civilian Community Corps (NCCC) to include disaster relief, infrastructure improvement, environmental and energy conservation, and urban and rural development.”
Whoa buddy !
I can just see these groups working in concert with Obamas national security force squealing on all those who aren’t falling in line with their thermostats and who’s got solar panels and who doesn’t, who trims their shrubs and who doesn’t.
Man, all these little groups and organizations and forces that Obama is whipping up are going to be the ingredients for a perfect storm people.
Inch by inch, brick by brick he’s building himself a little multi tasking multi faceted herd of lobotomized lemmings to do his dirty work for him.
Think about it, the pledge volunteers asking for a signed pledge to Obama and his policies,a national security force, volunteers for this, volunteers for that…
Everything he does involves the gathering of masses all connected to and supported by the government.
Think I’m crazy ? Here’s the next statement that follows directly after the previous one;
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“Encourages service partnerships with other federal agencies.”
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“Recruits Scientists and Engineers to Service to Keep America Competitive”
Yea right.
You’ll give them scientists a nice little bonus to “make” the science prove global warming so you can institute a whole slew of programs with the ulterior motive of controlling you lives and so we can sell you a bunch of crap you don’t need.
“Establishes an alumni corps of former participants who can be called to service during times of disaster and other emergencies.”
Now he wants to replace the National guard ?
“Silver Scholarships and Encore Fellowships: These programs offer boomers and seniors, age 55 or older, opportunities to transition into service post-career as well as entrance into new careers in the public or nonprofit sector.”
Non profit sector ?
Man. lib’s love that don’t they ?
Not only are they whipping up a bunch of child labor they’re gonna get what they can outta the elderly also !!!
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Heres my response to a moonbat on the subject at another blog who stated;
“It’s a volunteer program. That’s it. That’s all.”
You’re wrong.
And asked;
“Why don’t you give the President a chance to succeed instead of hoping for his failure.”
I don’t want to give what I don’t want a chance at succeeding.
What don’t liberals understand about this ?
I do not want him to succeed in his plan to establish programs that will control my life in a way I see unfit.
I’m allowed and almost expected as an American to assert the right to speak against what I don’t think will be good for my country.
Do you understand that ?
I don’t need to wait and see if this program succeeds or not, I don’t want it from the start. I don’t want my 14 year old son anywhere near these people in that you can bet the majority of them will be liberals who will respond to the call out of loyalty to the party or Obama himself.
Really, how many cons does anyone think are going to sign up for this ?
April 8th, 2009 at 8:42 am
From my understanding of the Public Service Act legislation, I don’t understand where most of these posts are coming from!
Most of these comments are as bad as the extreme left who equated George W with Hilter after 9/11.
Good luck to you.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:47 am
It took our Country how long to abolish SLAVERY? And only took our first African-American President, who could have been doing so much good for this Country, only a few months to bring it back…….
WAKE UP PEOPLE………. Forced Volunteerism IS SLAVERY…… This time it’s ok though, since the SLAVE MASTERS are the Government and not individuals…..
Thank God Slavery wass abolished, LETS KEEP IT THAT WAY…
September 9th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Required
and Volunteer
Are mutually exclusive.
It’s conscription.
It’s wrong.